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		<title>How Do You Harness Uncertainty?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Any day now, I&#8217;ll be out of the worst part of IRS collections.   Any day now, I&#8217;ll be done and the IRS will acknowledge that my total outstanding liability is under $25,000.   And any day, I&#8217;ll be no longer subject to weekly calls with a revenue officer hunting down my status.  I&#8217;ve come a long [...]<p>This post originally came from the  Freelance Sales Blog <a href="http://genuinechris.com">GenuineChris.com</a> My company is http://flatratewebjobs.com/ go check that out when you get a moment.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><div class="tweetmeme_button" style="float: right; margin-left: 10px;"><a href="http://api.tweetmeme.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fgenuinechris.com%2Fhow-do-you-harness-uncertainty%2F"><img src="http://api.tweetmeme.com/imagebutton.gif?url=http%3A%2F%2Fgenuinechris.com%2Fhow-do-you-harness-uncertainty%2F" height="61" width="51" /></a></div><p>Any day now, I&#8217;ll be out of the worst part of IRS collections.   Any day now, I&#8217;ll be done and the IRS will acknowledge that my total outstanding liability is under $25,000.   And any day, I&#8217;ll be no longer subject to weekly calls with a revenue officer hunting down my status.  I&#8217;ve come a long way.  I started out owing over $91,000 just to them.  So there&#8217;s some pride there.  My number say I owe $23,900.  Their numbers will undoubtedly be different by a smidgen, but I continue to pay weekly to them to get that debt out of my hair.</p>
<p>The uncertainty though is hard to contend with.  Look, the bottom line is that they are gonna put me on some type of payment plan.  Most likely it&#8217;ll be $500 a month, far, far less than what I&#8217;ve been paying.   That will be a relief, cash flow wise.   I&#8217;ll be able to breathe a little and relax.</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s not known.  It could be another month of the same old &#8216;report to the revenue officer.&#8217;  It could be that my 2005 returns are wanting, and they want more info that I&#8217;ll have a hard time supplying.   It could be that they are gonna say I owe more.  Anything is possible.</p>
<p>Tom Petty says that the waiting is the hardest part.</p>
<p>Dealing with the weight is a wait and a distraction I don&#8217;t know&#8211;quite how to process.  On the one hand, it&#8217;ll either be good news or no news.</p>
<p>But the waiting is the hardest part.</p>
<p>I am mentally having a hard time with it.  I know that one of the biggest joys of my life is coming in about 6 months when I write that final &#8220;F-off&#8221; check to the IRS.  I want that to happen this year, in 2009, in the heart of the recession.   But the distraction of the maybe is something that the linear part of me can&#8217;t deal with.  I&#8217;m having a difficult time focusing on my lists &amp; tasks.</p>
<p>I know&#8211;a little bit&#8211;what it&#8217;s like to have a loved one with a grim prognosis.   The uncertainty kills.  It&#8217;s part of the reason why mortgage brokers got so much money.  They bore the burdens of financial uncertainty along with their clients.  I&#8217;ll let you all know what happens, it&#8217;ll be sometime in July that the finish line will honestly and actually be in sight.  That I&#8217;ll be able to dash for it, and get the merciless evil that is the IRS out of our life.</p>
<p>Then I&#8217;ll work on the rest of my debt.</p>
<p>Miles to go, but I see the path at least.</p>
<p>More later.  Cutting some videos for thesis blogs.</p>
<p>This post originally came from the  Freelance Sales Blog <a href="http://genuinechris.com">GenuineChris.com</a> My company is http://flatratewebjobs.com/ go check that out when you get a moment.
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 00:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#8217;t believe the hype: you aren&#8217;t wasting money on rent.
You gotta live somewhere, right?   And that&#8217;s gonna cost money, right?  So what&#8217;s the difference if it goes to a landlord, a housing complex&#8230;or a big bank?   Banks have done a fabulous job convincing us all that paying a landlord is [...]<p>This post originally came from the  Freelance Sales Blog <a href="http://genuinechris.com">GenuineChris.com</a> My company is http://flatratewebjobs.com/ go check that out when you get a moment.
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<p>You gotta live somewhere, right?   And that&#8217;s gonna cost money, right?  So what&#8217;s the difference if it goes to a landlord, a housing complex&#8230;or a big bank?   Banks have done a <em>fabulous</em> job convincing us all that paying a landlord is a waste of money.</p>
<p>But&#8230;is that really true? <strong>To a point.  Having real estate is decent, if you can afford it, but don&#8217;t think that home ownership will be a panacea&#8211;and it&#8217;s not worth straining your wallet if that&#8217;s what owning requires&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>The world is weird.  The values don&#8217;t make sense, and <a href="http://">my industry</a> makes even less sense.   People rush off to do is to become homeowners, and they want to spend more moneythey should on their homes.  Lots of late 20&#8217;s-early 30&#8217;s people have great wages, little assets, little net worth, and even less &#8220;cash&#8221; that they can get their hands on.   <em>And yet they are willing to incur the maximum houing payment they can get approved for&#8230;</em></p>
<p>People enter the home ownership process not wanting to spend any money on an appraisal, not wanting to spend any money on an inspection (crazy), and <strong>maxing out their pre approval amount without regard to their budget.   </strong></p>
<p>Who&#8217;s complicit?  Their realtors, who stand to earn 5-6k in commissions with each sale&#8230;the Mortgage Lenders&#8230;who stand to earn $3-5k with each sale&#8230;the people who lend based on the assumption that family will bail you out&#8230;?</p>
<p>The wrong question to ask is &#8220;how much home can I afford.&#8221;  Instead&#8211;think &#8220;what is my purpose for owning at all.&#8221;  How does it help me?  It makes NO sense&#8230;to have a large percentage of your budget consumed by a total housing bill.</p>
<p>By total housing, think of rent/mortgage (incl taxes) + insurance + upkeep + utilities.  My industry will cheerfully loan money, provided about 45% or less of your <strong>gross </strong>income is not consumed by your very BASIC housing expense&#8211;meaning just the payment.  And&#8211;if under 55% of your total gross wages, you&#8217;re probably going to get approved. So if you earn 45k a year, that is 3750 per month (pre tax).   Take 45% of that, and we&#8217;re at an approved payment of 1687 a month + or minus.   This is what current, <strong>more conservative</strong> lending offers prime customers.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s think about this.  After housing, you can have up to $375 +/- of your money obligated otherwise and still have under a 55% debt to income ratio.   And this is just what shows up on your credit!  Car insurance, utilities, cell phone, cable, groceries&#8230;all of this stuff doesn&#8217;t show up on your credit report!</p>
<p>A $1700 payment will buy you a $200,000 house at 6.75% interest.  (Rates are a sconch Lower) $205,000</p>
<ul>
<li>Principal and interest:  $1329.00;</li>
<li>taxes: $256.25;</li>
<li>Homeowners insurance: 43.12 (that&#8217;s a low end quote.)</li>
<li>PMI (for zero down customers): $85.42.</li>
<li>Total: $1714.01.</li>
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<p>OK.; let&#8217;s take this $1714 and add just one car payment at $350.00; out of the gate the total obligations are $2064.00 . <strong>After taxes, $3750 a month is as much as $3,000 without adding anything else into the payment.  That&#8217;s about the most you can expect to get&#8230;in after tax dough.  </strong>So you&#8217;ve got $750 a month left.</p>
<blockquote><p>And you&#8217;ve got car insurance ($86 bucks).  You&#8217;ve got electric ($140 bucks) You&#8217;ve got the internet&#8230;$25 bucks.  Cell phones?  2 people: 90 bucks for a well priced plan. You&#8217;ve got a gas bill.  $90/average. Gas in your car, that&#8217;s a necessity.  $100/month.  Minimum. Food: A family of three spends an average of $380/month on food.  Let&#8217;s take that down by 20%&#8230;<strong>$304.</strong> Before we get to clothing, medical care, we&#8217;re at <strong>$911 a month.  </strong>home maintanence (usually 1%/year)- non existant. If they have $150 more a year</p></blockquote>
<p align="left">Now&#8211;on this kind of a scheme, how do you save?  This is a &#8220;safe A+ loan,&#8221; in my industry.  And if the safe loans stick the poor homeowner eating ramen noodels&#8230;is praised as being &#8220;smart,&#8221; and as making &#8220;good&#8221; decisions.</p>
<p align="left">Not everyone is this extreme&#8211;i realize that.  But, most people aren&#8217;t too far off&#8211;only having $300-500 in excess of their bills.   For me, having a nice house is pure vanity.   How much less stress would there be if I lived in a $800/month place instead?    How much more of Jack could I see?  How much more could I give to my church, to charity?</p>
<p align="left">I feel very blessed to be in the industry I&#8217;m in, even though it&#8217;s wierd.  I also do see a lot of people doing it right.  It&#8217;s smart to minimize your expenses, live frugally as possible.  And, not worry about what other people are doing.   When we were first married, Heather and I had a $300/month apartment in Westerville.  It was tiny.  We rushed into a house because that was the thing to do&#8211;but really&#8211;if we had wanted just to stay in the $300/month place for a year or two, we would have had a great time&#8230;we would have saved so much money&#8230;and figured out other ways to get along, and eased into things.</p>
<p align="left">What if you had a tiny house payment, and dramatically lower expenses?  What could you manage to pay for?   What is the purpose (biblical/other) of having an expensive home?   If you don&#8217;t need the size, why not save your earnings, have a budget, and then go after home ownership from a position of strength.</p>
<p align="left">I&#8217;d say that good guidelines would be no more than 30% of your gross wages on TOTAL housing expenses&#8211;this includes payment, electiric, gas, and everything else.   If you make a decent amount ($70k year/family) then it&#8217;s OK to go above this, provided that you can continue to save money as time permits.</p>
<p align="left">&nbsp;</p>
<p>I saw this post&#8211;the blog is excellent&#8211;and very on point and on topic.  <a href="http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/09/22/when-a-frugal-life-and-social-gift-giving-come-into-conflict/">http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/09/22/when-a-frugal-life-and-social-gift-giving-come-into-conflict/</a></p>
<p>This post originally came from the  Freelance Sales Blog <a href="http://genuinechris.com">GenuineChris.com</a> My company is http://flatratewebjobs.com/ go check that out when you get a moment.
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